April 10, 2026

166. Small Town Business: When the Boss Is the Culture with Simone Pickering and Prina Shah

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In this episode, I’m joined again by Simone Pickering, HR consultant and founder of The People & Culture Office, to unpack a reality many small town businesses don’t want to admit:

Sometimes the culture is the business owner.

And in regional and small town settings, that impact is even stronger.

We explore what happens when leadership style, personality, and long-standing habits define the entire workplace culture — and why this often leads to stagnation, turnover, and growth ceilings.

This is a conversation about self-awareness, hard truths, and what it really takes to shift culture when it’s deeply personal.

In This Episode, We Discuss

  • Why culture in small towns is often shaped by one dominant leader
  • What happens when businesses don’t evolve beyond the founder
  • The connection between leadership personality and employee experience
  • Why employees leave (and it’s not always about money)
  • The defensiveness that blocks culture change
  • Why compliance and policies don’t fix retention
  • The myth of perks (bonuses, trips) as engagement strategies
  • The gap between leadership perception vs employee reality
  • Why many small businesses stall at 10–15 employees
  • Why culture only becomes a priority when business conditions change

About the Guest: Simone Pickering - Founder, The People & Culture Office

Simone is a Kalgoorlie-based HR consultant working with businesses across regional WA. She helps leaders build practical, human-centred cultures that support retention, performance, and long-term success.

🔗 Website: https://thepeopleandcultureoffice.com
🔗 LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/in/simone-pickering-mahri-a03954134

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